Bad Business Practice – Telemarketing to Cell Phones
For the past week my wife has been harassed by an annoying telemarketing company.
She at once told them it was her cell phone and they should not be calling it.
Believe it or not, the telemarketer argued with her about it!
Can you believe that? Call someone to sell them something and then argue about them complaining about your unsolicited call! How do these people expect to make any money if they treat a potential customer that way?![]()
I have no idea what the company was, Value something or other. We were more intent on telling them (they did not seem to understand this) that we did not want them to call us. Now or ever. What they should have said is, "Sorry, we will not call again." They also should have not called again.
But no, they argued with us!
They asked if we were on the national do not call list. We told them no. It is a cell phone and they should not be calling anyway. We also told them to remove the number from the list.
They called again.
And again. And again. And Again. And again. Get the idea. Every time we have told them do not call again. Remove us from the list. They argue. They call again. And again…….UUUUURRRRRRGGGGGGG
Does a cell phone need to be listed on the national do not call list to stop telemarketers?
No. Nearly all telemarketers use automated dialing. The FCC does not allow telemarketers to use automakers to call cell phones. They also cannot send email to cell phones from an Internet address. Yes, they are most likely breaking the law if they do this. We told them that. But nnnnnoooooo.![]()
So, first I called our cell phone provider.
They were nice enough to credit use with an extra hour of minutes in case the calls put us over our monthly minutes. The help person suggested that sign up for the do not call list. That was about all he could do.
So, I went to the FCC and filed a complaint.
At least I know the telemarketer was indeed breaking the law. I have now reported it. I gave them 4 of the numbers and the dates they called.
You can read what the FCC and FTC have to say about telemarketing to cell phones below.
The Truth about Cell Phones and the Do Not Call Registry
Despite Re-Circulating E-mail, It is Still Not Necessary to Register Cell Phone NumbersAs the number of phone numbers on the National Do Not Call (DNC) Registry surpassed 139 million, the Federal Trade Commission today reiterated that despite the claims made in e-mails circulating on the Internet, consumers should not be concerned that their cell phone numbers will be released to telemarketers at any time in the near future. In addition, according to the agency, it is not necessary to register cell phone numbers on the DNC Registry to be protected from most telemarketing calls to cell phones.
The truth about cell phones and the DNC Registry is:
- Contrary to the e-mail, cell phone numbers are NOT being released to telemarketers, and you will NOT soon be getting telemarketing calls on your cell phone.
- There is NO deadline by which you must register your cell phone number on the Registry.
- Federal Communications Commission (FCC) regulations prohibit telemarketers from using automated dialers to call cell phone numbers. Automated dialers are standard in the industry, so most telemarketers are barred from calling consumers on their cell phones without their consent.
- The national associations representing telemarketers have stated that their clients do not intend to start calling consumers’ cell phones.
- There is only ONE DNC Registry. There is no separate registry for cell phones.
- The DNC Registry accepts registrations from both cell phones and land lines. You must call from the phone number that you want to register. If you register online, you must respond to a confirmation e-mail.
- While the telecommunications industry has been discussing the possibility of creating a wireless 411 directory, according to the FCC, even if a wireless 411 directory is established, most telemarketing calls to cell phones would still be illegal, regardless of whether the number is listed on the federal government’s National Do Not Call Registry.
Source: The Truth about Cell Phones and the Do Not Call Registry
The real moral of the story is don't tick off a customer.
If someone I might do business with calls and I tell them it is my cell phone, apologize and do not call. It really is that simple. If you annoy me, I am going to get really mad! It is not a good idea to annoy a customer.
If you are polite and stop annoying me at once you may still have a customer one day.
I can understand an errant call. It happens. But if you start to annoy people, whatever company you are, you lose integrity. I like to drink Coca-Cola. But if a representative of the company started to call me on my cell phone, I would start to get annoyed. If they argued with me about calling my cell phone, I would get to the point that I would not even want to drink Coke again. It can be that annoying. Just to be clear, it was not Coca-Cola calling (and I am drinking a Sprite right now).
I filed a complaint with the FCC about the telemarketer.
Last time I filed a complaint it was about 6 months before I heard back about it. Can they do anything? Yes. The original call records can be traced and the company can be found through the records, even though the caller ID was probably faked. It probably will not though. My guess is the FCC is already too busy to deal with this.
I feel better though.
I still expect the telemarketer to call. They told me three times they were removing the number from the list. I usually do not yell at telemarketers but I will at these guys. They deserve the bad things that will happen to them.
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There is no date on the Cell Phone information above. Is this the 2004 information or is it more recent? It's kind of important to know . . . ya know?
Blessings and thanks for your website – chuck
Odd you should ask that question today. I've been getting some telemarketers the past few weeks on my cell phone.
The FCC still claims that nearly all telemarketing to cell phones is illegal. You cannot use automated calling to telemarket to cell phones.(notice the period) You do not need to sign up your cell phone number for the no-call registry and the FCC web site makes this very clear. You can also file a complaint at the FTC website as well as the FCC as the FTC has rules against this too. I filed a complaint today with the FTC. I may file another with the FCC.
I suspect that much of this type of telemarketing is not based in the US anymore so it may be hard for the US government to enforce sometimes, but often the product or service is still US based and still subject to the regulations. In this case, it would still do you no good to be on a no-call list anyway.
Then only way this can be profitable to these companies is the small percentage of people that would actually buy the product from a telemarketer. I'm not sure what makes these people think a company is legit just because they call your phone.
Nope, you do not need to sign up for list for your cell phone. There is no current reason to in the future either. Of course, there is a bunch of air heads in office now that couldn't seem to care less about taxpayers and citizens and our rights as long as they can stay in office and decide what they think is good for the rest of us while they exclude themselves.
Hi,
The telephones which are shown are the olden age pieces.
The information is looking good.
Thanks.
I suspect that much of this type of telemarketing is not based in the US anymore so it may be hard for the US government to enforce sometimes, but often the product or service is still US based and still subject to the regulations.
thats crazy, they actually argued with her. I believe that complain to the FCC does not equate to much. I feel as though frustration is all you are going to get, with Telemarketing companies there are no physical being to vent your anger upon.
ok, I got a call today from an unknown number that hunb up on me and looked it up (sometimes i'm afraid its juts a computer trying to find out who actually answers unknown numbers), the google result took me to a page where they were selling something. i wonder if some people have machines calling people with no phone message but just to get people to google a number that they've already optimized in the search engines? kind of underhanded, yet brilliant.
Cameron- You're not far off.
There is technology that will call numbers and only leave messages on voice mail. Otherwise, it hangs up. The FCC allows this to be used only during certain hours of the day, but I still think it is dumb to allow it.
Out of country companies do the calling so there is no way of knowing where the call originates- if you answer you get a hang up, if you don't it leaves a voice mail.
This is still illegal to cell phones.
NO AUTOMATED telemarketing is allowed to cell phone numbers (with a few common sense exception like you recently did business with the company).
..and no, you do not need to be on a no-call list for your cell phone.
True I have found that even being on a no call list doesn't even help. I was phoned by the same company about three times yesterday by different callers despite my number being on a no call list. Some companies don't care and its frustrating.
Has anyone heard about its now legal for companies to cold call you on your mobile telephone by being put through from another company?
Not here in the US Alan.
No automated calling to cell phones. BTW, both the FTC and FCC have regulations covering these abuses. I have filed complaints with both agencies within the last year about telemarketers.
In the UK, telemarketing to mobiles (cell phones) is allowed if they are not on the TPS (our version of the DNC)
Most companies will not make cold calls to mobiles, due to the relatively high cost, and because you cannot tell where the recipients is – possible safety implications if they are dirving.
In your case, the telemarketers may NOT have been using a predictive dialler, keeping within the letter of the law – however, in both the UK and US once you ask not to be called that is it.
Most decent companies and outsourced telemarketing firms will comply with a remove request, as they do not want to waste time and resources calling again – but there are always a few mavericks out there!
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@Jonathan: Nearly all telemarketers use automated dialing-making it illegal for them to call cell phones in the US. No recorded messages allowed either, at all. Most overseas outsourcing is using VOIP, which nearly always means computer aided also.
In the US, it does not cost any more to call a cell phone than a regular line, the cell phone owner effectively pays for the call. This is different than in Europe where the caller pays to call a cell phone. It is the same with SMS here.
Both the FTC and FCC have regulations about calling cell phones here. Nearly all the telemarketing calls to cell phones I have gotten are illegal ones.
I have gotten 2 this week. This will probably be another post soon.